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Carl Frederick Kirstein, 1790–1865 (aged 75 years)

Name
Carl Frederick /Kirstein/
Type of name
birth name
Given names
Carl Frederick
Surname
Kirstein
Birth
January 17, 1790 31
Darmstadt, Germany
Religious marriage
Hester Margarita Olivier — View this family
December 3, 1799 (aged 9 years)
Tulbagh
Address: Dutch Reformed Church
Occupation
Handelaar
Worcester
Death of a mother
Maria Louisa Lochoin
April 17, 1802
Berlin, Germany
Birth of a son
Wouter Carlszoon Kirstein
February 11, 1832
Worcester
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Death of a father
Christian Kirstein (Kirschstein)
Death
October 13, 1865 (aged 75 years)
Worcester
Family with parents
father
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Christian Kirstein (Kirschstein)
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mother
Birth: 1759
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Death: April 17, 1802 — Berlin, Germany
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Christian Kirstein (Kirschstein) Carl Frederick Kirstein
Maria Louisa Lochoin
1759–1802
Birth: 1759
Death: April 17, 1802 — Berlin, Germany
Religious marriage — —
Marriage — —
himself
Birth: January 17, 1790 31 — Darmstadt, Germany
Religious marriage: December 3, 1799 — Tulbagh
Occupation: Handelaar — Worcester
Death: October 13, 1865 — Worcester
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Hester Margarita Olivier Wouter Carlszoon Kirstein
Carl Frederick Kirstein
1790–1865
Birth: January 17, 1790 31 — Darmstadt, Germany
Death: October 13, 1865 — Worcester
Family with Hester Margarita Olivier
himself
Birth: January 17, 1790 31 — Darmstadt, Germany
Religious marriage: December 3, 1799 — Tulbagh
Occupation: Handelaar — Worcester
Death: October 13, 1865 — Worcester
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Hester Margarita Olivier Wouter Carlszoon Kirstein
Carl Frederick Kirstein
1790–1865
Birth: January 17, 1790 31 — Darmstadt, Germany
Death: October 13, 1865 — Worcester
wife
Birth: May 22, 1799 — Tulbagh
Religious marriage: December 3, 1799 — Tulbagh
Death: July 28, 1876 — Robertson
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Carl Frederick Kirstein Wouter Carlszoon Kirstein
Hester Margarita Olivier
1799–1876
Birth: May 22, 1799 — Tulbagh
Death: July 28, 1876 — Robertson
Religious marriage — December 3, 1799 — Tulbagh
33 years
son
Birth: February 11, 1832 42 32 — Worcester
Occupation: Boer — Vergenoegd, Zeerust
Death: November 27, 1888 — Marico, Zeerust
Religious marriage: May 11, 1952 — Worcester
Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Martha Margaretha Rabe Susanna Maria Kirstein Carl Friedrich Kirstein Jan Sabastiaan Kirstein Hester Margaretha Kirstein Petrus Paulus Kirstein Martha Margaretha Kirstein Francina Clarodina Dorodina Kirstein Wouter Kirstein
Wouter Carlszoon Kirstein
1832–1888
Birth: February 11, 1832 42 32 — Worcester
Death: November 27, 1888 — Marico, Zeerust
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Carl Frederick het as bouer en skrynwerker n belangrike aandeel gehad aan die bou van Worcester se kerk en aan die voltooing van die Preekstoel. Kirstein het ook pragtige meubelstukke gemaak war deur van sy kinders geerf is. Deur Kirstein se aandeel -veral aan die bou van die preekstoel - het daar n sterk vrienskapsband tussen Wouter De Vos (n groot weldoener aan Worcester se kerk) en Carl (Carel) Kirstein ontstaan. So dankbaar wa Carel Kirstein met sy aandeel aan die maak van die preekstoel, waarvoor Wouter De Vos feitlik al die geld geskenk het en idees gegee het hoe dit gemaak en afgerond word, dat Kirstein De Vos se naam "Wouter" aan sy jonkste kind gegee het. Hierdie Wouter hate dan later ook die Oupa van die Kirsteins in Marico geword, asook die Oupa van die Gronums, wat gebore is uit die huwelik van 12 April 1875. Wouter De Vos, het op sy beurt weer, n waardevolle sakhorlosie aan C.F. Kistein gekenk as blyk van sy waardering. Dit is ook interessant om te sien hoe volop die stam-name "Wouter" en "Carel Frederick" geword het. Hiedie Wouter Kistein het in 1864 na Transvaal getrek. Op 24 Desember van daardie jaar het hy op die plaas Vergenoegd in Marico aangekom. Hulle het 4 seuns en 4 dogters gehad, waaruit n sterk nageslag gespruit het.
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[Ans Gronum] Carel Frederick Godlieb Kirstein se geboorte datum is nie bekend nie. Hy het (sien Die Groot Afrikaanse Familie Naamboek - PAMA Uitgewers Hume, 1983) as huursoldaat 1805 voet aan wal gesit. Gedurende 1816 het hy (CO 3906, no 398, gedateer 3 Desember 1816) sy ontslag uit die 1ste BAT van die 60 Regiment beding en hy het aangedui day hy vanaf Berlyn (??) afkomstig is en as skrynwerker opgelei was. Hy het later na Worcester beweeg en is met sy tweede vrou Hester Margaretha, geb 9 Junie 1799, getroud PAMA p.664 Gedurende 1869 is Carel oorlede en 1880 sy eggenote.
Ek spoor in Worcester se doopregister G 14/2/1, op dat sy seun Carel Daniel Johannes Kisrstein, bebore 27 Julie 1821 en op 15 Julie 15 Julie 1821 laat doop het. Vader: Carel Frederik Gotlieb Kirstein Moeder: Jannetta Catharina Justina Hermans. Op 12 Februarie 1825 word n testament inderhaas opgeste. Janetta is bedleggend sy is kort daarna oorlede.
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KYK ook na Ans Gronum se handgeskrewe notas oor Kirsteins ! Nog nie volledig opgeten of nagegaan.